He could have apologized a long time ago, but nothing publicly. But he said when he and Scott Phelps and Barry Slebaugh went into a meeting with James in the summer of 2012, asking for, whats your salary James? It looks like these contemporary churches are just fundamentalists in different garb. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. Dr. John Street, the head of counseling at MacArthurs The Masters University, takes a harder line. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. We did not hurry. If this passage defines what a strong husband looks like, I think most of the issues take care of themselves. We turned out to have six witnesses who wrote 28 pages with innumerable charges. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. . What Happens Now? And there was just this push against a public rebuke. And I looked at it, and I could not read the whole letter in one sitting. The whole crooked machine needs to be brought down. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . And I dont need to know. He has always been a total its all about me. It seems we are being punished for the acts of someone who was our spiritual leader. James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 14, 2021. And while youre at it, Id really appreciate it if youd help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review. Dan was one of the elders who fired James McDonald. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. And there was a group and we had two prayer meetings of people who had been former elders, staff people who have gone on the record with me. How can we approve this? Roys detailed evidence from former Harvest elders, employees, and members that . And it was just a deep sadness, deep sadness. This isnt phrased to have constructive conversation. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 Five of the six have been published. And learn how MacDonald almost escaped being exposedand how six scathing letters that revealed MacDonalds true nature almost failed to reach the elder board. I wasnt looking forward to that. And as people rotated through, there were newer people on the board, and they wouldnt have really had a lot of access to to James McDonald. I appreciate elders (Hebrews 13:17). The owners of Marquardt are friends of mine, Dan and Kurt Marquardt. I need to repent. Divorce is a civil remedy that is necessary when there is abuse, physical, emotional, financial, or even when people are incompatible. But again, reading those letters, and it does have a different impact when you read the actual letter than someone summarizes it. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. Charles, How about that one? Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. So thats why I think its so important to get the truth out there and to just keep speaking the truth. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. None of my sources said it was wrong. And I hope I hope that a lot of people have read that and they dont owe me anything, but I hope its been healing to them. "Mancow Airs Shocking Comments By James MacDonald": Julie Roys' Response February 12, 2019 Cherie Vandermillen [Julie Roys] I never thought I would hear an evangelical, mega-church pastor talk about planting child pornography on the computer of an executive at a Christian publication. God does not value the sanctity of marriage more than the safety and sanity of individuals in that marriage.. And we shouldnt be, you know, happy with standing in line and say, well, so and so said that, right? Do you expect ANYONE to say yes to your question. Christian counselor and author, Leslie Vernick, took exception to Viscontis post. I followed up with this text but Julie did not respond immediately to my request for a comment. Like wow! And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. And eventually, and I know you send them with a lot of safeguards, so they couldnt be forwarded. pretty rotten.. We had to deal with it. And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. It wasnt an argument. I dont know how many people had heard of it. When I entered my UCC church-sponsored college, I figured out why. Only Gods opinion is what counts. What does the bible say about that? Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. When I did, I told her letters were coming in, would she consider writing it. it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened . And in case you dont know, Dan Marquardt was one of three former elders at Harvest, who stood up to James McDonald in 2013, and was excommunicated as a result. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. At least some did. You disseminated down to the elders, and then that became really the sticking point for James, wasnt it? Harvest didnt know what it looked like to not have him as a senior pastor. And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. Pastor James MacDonald. The marriage relationship has died. It was a Wednesday or Thursday night on the Rolling Meadows campus. Rather, its helping those in bondage find freedom. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. Ill tell you one thing, Julie. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. And I have, you know, probably probably six weeks later, less than, probably four weeks later or something I I apologized for signing that. And his email says, it seems we are being targeted. Julie Roys knows she published many false statements about me, false statements now proven such in a court of law, yet she has retracted nothing. Sin has real consequences and sometimes those consequences are permanent. You cant unconditionally support anybody. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. Ed Stetzer was given a car by James MacDonald, along with a bunch of cash and other things that Roys documents in her reporting. So Rick had been there 29 plus years. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. I remember saying we got to pray. To donate, click here. I agree that its loving to speak the truth, even when its unpopular, but the New Testament also has a lot to say about the way we conduct ourselves and how we should treat each other. You know, while while I was an overseer, I didnt know it. Harvest Bible Chapel Sues Former Members, Julie Roys for Defamation; Harvest Bible Chapel's chief information officer allegedly stole $270K; Harvest Bible Chapel to launch 'Freedom House' 90-day residential addiction recovery program ; James MacDonald Reflects on 30 Years in Ministry, #MeToo, Millennials and Future of Faith in the US And James, recently, in this video that he posted, said that there was an elder, in these meetings, he says, its very, very disparagingly who, who was holding his Bible and kept reading scripture. That way youll never miss an episode. Not saying anything about the about the men in the room, but that becomes unwieldy. And so really appreciate that and appreciate the time at which you did that. Great! I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. Malachi 2:16 has been harmfully interpreted & practiced based on twisted translations, Malachi 2 clearly talks about husbands dealing treacherously w their wives these husbands are the ones who hate and divorce 16 The man who hates and divorces his wife, says the Lord, the God of Israel, does violence to the one he should protect, says the Lord Almighty. June 17, 2021 James MacDonald, the former megachurch pastor who's been embroiled in scandal and controversy for several years, is lashing out against independent journalist Julie Roys. And thats got to be a heavy. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. But the other letters, my understanding is they came in, and youre in a meeting with the other elders. . . Just saying a lot of vile things. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. None of those charges were looked into. I mean his letter, not just talking about the abusive behavior of James, but the things he did with the money going on African safaris with the church money. Search my early tweet history. to anyone whos been a part of, of what went on. To myself, I said, and do our job. Yeah, I got sued, but the case got dropped. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. And this wasnt a one time thing. Gary Weigel, if you total all the expenses including vet bills, it might be more than a tithe. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. I hope you have a great day and God bless. Yeah Cynthia. I dont see that as absolving James McDonald. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. The devil is at work. I remember waking up that morning. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. "I was sitting in the back seat. Theres 30 men in the room. Hes not qualified. If you find yourself unaware of https://biblehub.com/hebrew/898.htm bagad (treachery aka abuse) is used FIVE times in Malachi 2:10-16!!! Vernick, however, believes abuse is grounds for divorce. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. Im not positive on that. So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. If I were still trying to please man, I would not be a servant of God, and Proverbs, etc. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. He knows! I dont know how the person who gave them to me got them. when men make the final decision in the marriage, even if they consult with their wife first, chances of divorce increases 7.4 times . (God) says, the prudent see danger and take refuge. We can put it up on the Harvest site, and Ill read it to the congregation on Saturday night. Okay. I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? But to also say, this was this was my fault, too. Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. But some of these people, for 10 years or more, had been maligned. And we were at a stalemate. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet.. But this is a story that just is not going away. I think, how is it that we had the word of God sitting in front of us, which is pretty clear about what to do. Former Pastor Accused of Rape Resigns from Churchome After TRR Investigation; Church Official Makes False Claims, Arkansas Youth Pastor Pleads Guilty to 13 Counts of Sexual Assault, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthur Shamed, Excommunicated Mother for Refusing to Take Back Child Abuser, Days-long Revival Sweeping Asbury University in Kentucky, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthur Covered Up Pastors Sexual Abuse, Witnesses Say, EXCLUSIVE: John MacArthurs Church Supported Convicted Child Abuser & Pedophile, Records Show, Dante Bowe Posts, Then Removes, Apology for Behavior Causing Split with Maverick City Music, Matt Chandler Steps Aside After Admitting Inappropriate Online Relationship, John MacArthur Pulls Out of Ligonier Conference, Pastor Resigns From Houston Megachurch After Admitting Affair, Televangelist Creflo Dollar Renounces Past Teachings on Tithing, But Questions Persist. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. I said, Sandy, Im so sorry, for what happened on my watch. And the things that were done to them after they left. Any update on the James MacDonald vs Harvest debacle? And this is when everything really started happening. The Lord made it really clear. How does this relate to his view of women? The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. And the demands that James McDonald made to try to go home a day early. This is a story that directly contradicts what MacDonald published in recent videos and statements on his webpage. My spouse and I and many others went to college with James in the eighties in Canada. The way James MacDonald is said to have treated others while pastor of Harvest and the way he behaves on Twitter dont seem to be in keeping with the way the New Testament says we should behave. And I was still on the board. Ill write a statement. However, there were a number of people in the room who did know him and knew him well. James MacDonald. Not long ago, I noticed that James MacDonald is still latched onto evangelical watchdog blogger Julie Roys as his number-one. Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. For more information just go to Judsonu.edu/visit. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. On January 7, 2019, Harvest elders announced they decided to drop the lawsuit against Julie Roys and four other individuals. We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. I asked Sandy Song to potentially write a letter. God will deal with him. Yeah, I can share some of it. I did not. That would be my word to Ron Duitsman. This is going amongst the elders now. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. 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